Hannes Võrno suggested getting even closer to his father and asking them more about their fathers too. “I’m very happy now that you ask me and I can talk about my father. It’s such a powerful thing and so, so beautiful. It gives me like a male magnet and warrior power that I can talk about my father with pride. And thanks to this it could eliminate a kind of fear of death,” Võrno said.
The host provided an identical example podcastsThe producer told him he wasn’t afraid of anything. “What am I afraid of? That if I’m afraid of anything in life, I’m only afraid of when one day I’m dead and someone tells one of my three children that your father was a coward, a coward. The kind of boot licker or damn idiot who just kept his damn opinion to himself and went everywhere with his chin shaking. I’m sorry, I don’t want it.”
Hannes Võrno’s courage and mission in Afghanistan, where he was a member of the armed forces, was a recurring theme in the show. “The word itself, Afghanistan… you can see it for yourself, the chills are coming. This is not a place to joke about. Why did you go there in the first place? What did you get there or what was the lesson to share with the men?” asked host Raivo Juhanson.
“It has to do with being yourself and that within a relationship. If you’re a man in a relationship and the relationship with the woman next to you starts to falter for a reason. At some point, it starts to both take shape that it is not a relationship between a couple, but a companionship. When intimacy, sex, passion disappears. What can I hide, when these things begin to disappear in a relationship, then the feeling of being a man and the “A woman feels that she is a woman. And this is the greatest tragedy. Then I felt like I was in this place at that exact moment, where I realized damn it, I’m not a man anymore. When a man doesn’t want a man, it’s like a disgusting feeling, an exceptionally disgusting feeling,” Võrno replied.
After such an experience, Võrno slammed the door of the television room behind him and went to knock on the gate of the defense forces to welcome him too. “Thanks to Riho Terras, who said okay, let’s see what kind of man you are.”
Hannes Võrno also had a so-called chicken to pluck with those who like to use the expression “toxic masculinity” in some context. He didn’t hold back an ounce and said that he made him very angry.
“Go visit the mine. Go see the construction sites where they’re building some skyscrapers: where the brothers are spinning on the roof in a kind of gust of wind, with this finger-thick rope over them just for encouragement. And some brothers pour a kind of molten metal in a 500 degree furnace somewhere. And then come at me, fuck you while you’re talking about toxic masculinity. Go do the work yourself. Honestly, I’m so nervous about this. It honestly pisses me off, this fucking Toxic masculinity talk makes me want to vomit and that’s because these same chickens drive cars that require metal to produce, which us toxic male macho pigs have to dig up somewhere in the ground.Think what you’re talking about.
According to Võrno, men must be able to kill a chicken, plant trees, mine metals, raise flags on towers, defend their land and even kill the enemy if it were really necessary. However, this has nothing to do with toxic masculinity, Võrno believes.
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2023-12-14 19:00:00
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